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16/12/12 -
Dear Fred, I am hoping you may be able to help? My
grandfather Derek (Atkins) Atkinson passed away aged 89 on
4.12.12 peacefully at the Manchester Royal Infirmary (MRI).
I was directed to your site via tributes to Alan Hare who
passed away in 2007. My grandfathers funeral will take place
at Manchester crematorium on Wednesday 19th December at
14:15. I know Jazz music was a massive part of his life and
anybody with memories of my grandfather are more than
welcome at the funeral. If there is a notice you could post
or a message to inform people of his passing it would be
most appreciated, a notice was placed in Fridays Manchester
Evening News also - Jason Atkinson
PRE-REVIVALIST MANCHESTER
JAZZ SCENE PIONEER, "DEREK ATKINS" DIES
By: Joe Silmon-Monerri, Manchester 18th December 2012
Webmaster and staunch friend of the Jazz Community, Fred Burnett,
recently passed me some very sad news given to him by Jason
Atkinson, grandson of one among the earliest outstanding pioneers of
the Manchester Jazz Revival, cornetist Derek Atkins (real surname,
Atkinson), who sadly passed away, peacefully aged 89, on 4th
December 2012, at the Manchester Royal Infirmary (MRI).
It is hoped that as many members of the Manchester Jazz scene,
musicians, vocalists and fans, will be present at his funeral at
Manchester Crematorium Chapel on Wednesday 19th December at 14:15
pm. to celebrate and commemorate Derek's significant contribution to
what eventually became the "Revival of Jazz" in Manchester; that
fairly independent, unsupported effort locally, in response to what
was happening in London in the early-mid 1940s. So far, a four-piece
band will be playing; as the mourners enter the Chapel and possibly
inside, between the recordings chosen by Diane, Derek's widow and
her grandson Jason Atkinson.
This original 'revival' and its hundreds of musicians appears to go
unrecognised today by the Arts Council and the organisers of the
present Manchester Jazz Festival. However, it did exist; so did
hundreds and even thousands of Jazz musicians, vocalists and dancers
who made it all happen, and caused so much Media interest and
coverage, well before the existing "Revival" organisations were set
up about three decades later. Back in the early-mid 1940s, the War
had rekindled the need for that infectious foot-tapping music that
once again began to fascinate millions worldwide, mainly through
radio broadcasts, in which Derek was to play a very important part.
Derek Atkinson was born in Manchester in 1923. As a very young
teenager, he became almost instantly hooked on Jazz by listening to
Mugsy Spanier, mainly on the radio at first, and later at Jazz
record recitals and meetings. Before reaching the heights with his
Dixielanders, his beginnings in the idiom were, as they often tend
to be, modest. Derek was in his early teens when he decided to join
with others of like mind; usually school-friends are the first
candidates. The early "band" consisted of Derek on cornet and John
Stovold on trumpet, and on hearing them practice through the open
window of Derek's lounge one afternoon, a youth in short trousers -
Barry Schumm - knocked on the door. "Can I bring my clarinet, and
join in?" - Barry tentatively asked. John and Derek enthusiastically
encouraged him to do so. Now there were three! Thus, after some
three years' hard practice, by which time the boys' ages ranged
between19 and 21, the "Strutters Swingtet" was formed, virtually in
Derek's front room in Longsight. Barry already played in a style,
loosely based on Benny Goodman's, and Derek tended towards "Nicksieland"
or a cross between that and the "Frisco"-style. Before they had
reached 20, the boys managed to attract the interest of other
instrumentalists, one being Tommy Wrigley (trombone). One or two
others followed, as they became members of local rhythm clubs.
However, while they all kept up their practice throughout the War,
they had begun between approximately 1944 and 1947, to attend Jazz
record recitals regularly, mainly at a large public house on Oxford
Road , All Saints - The Clarendon Hotel - although other centres
were of interest to them too. The association at the Clarendon was
run by Jazz enthusiast, Jack Gregory, and it was called the
Manchester Jazz Society, a follow-up after the War, of the
organisation set up in 1934 by a man called "Jenks" (but not the one
from the Manchester Sports Guild in the 1950s/60s). There, the boys
met up with other musicians from different local areas.
At one of the Society's recital meetings, the Committee, knowing
that there were several flesh-and-blood musicians in the room, asked
Derek and friends and one or two others to form a band that would be
based at the Clarendon to play live sessions - for a change. It was
eventually decided that it would be renamed Derek Atkins
Dixielanders; and was possibly the most important decision that the
Committee had ever made.
And so, instead of the "Strutters' Swingtet", it was the Derek
Atkins Dixielanders, appropriately under the leadership of Derek,
who now appeared live, for the very first time before a captive
audience, at the Manchester Jazz Society. It was a far cry from the
so far 'record recitals only' policy of the Society. Up to 1947 it
had relied on the recitals and on talks by prominent Jazz
enthusiasts and connoisseurs, such as Sinclair Trayll, Harry Giltrap,
Alan Stevens and others, and run super-efficiently by Jack Gregory
at the Clarendon. This was quite a serious project at the time,
which put the band at the forefront of those bands that had already
recorded live Jazz in Manchester in the early days: the Delta Rhythm
Kings and the Smoky City Stompers. Although they had been slow to
come onto the scene as a recognised band, the boys had been among
the first Jazz musicians to play live on the scene, albeit for
themselves, before the Manchester version of the Jazz Revival kicked
in with bands such as Harry Giltrap's/Eric' Lister's Delta Rhythm
Kings and the Smoky City Stompers in 1944-46. Again, these two bands
had been slowly put together during WW2; it was easier to retain
personnel once the War was over, of course. Soldiers, Sailors and
Airmen were now back or on their way back to Britain, from the
various fronts. Harry Giltrap played banjo and guitar; Eric Lister
played clarinet, and after the War, he had become an expert
vocalist, after returning from Navy duties via New York, in 1946,
stopping off there to practice with local Jazz musicians, and
picking up American vocalist styles. These last two bands were
recording as early as 1946-48.
I photographed Derek with his old band-mate, the late Alan Hare, and
the photo appears in my tribute to Alan on Fred's magnificent
website, with a lot of information about Derek Atkins Dixielanders.
The surname appears to have been shortened at the Clarendon, for the
first of several performances by the band. Derek was also in Alan's
bands, Particularly the Blue Note Jazzmen, who played at both the
Wheatsheaf Hotel and at the Queen's Café on Queen Street. He was
also actually playing regularly until relatively recently, with
Stretford Brass Band, and much earlier with Burnage Brass Bands, not
far from his home. His widow is Diane. She was an avid Jazz fan, and
followed Derek around to clubs and gigs; at first it was the drummer
to whom she gave her attention. Later, she fell hook, line and
sinker for Derek and that was it, forever! Diane put together, in a
beautifully set-out scrap-book, many items that she and Derek
allowed me to photocopy for the book on the local Jazz scene. When I
can get around to it, it will be interesting for Jason as well as
anybody keen on knowing how the Manchester Jazz scene - the REAL one
- came about.
Derek Atkinson was the cornettist/leader of the Derek 'Atkins'
Dixielanders, that started out in at least 1944-46 as a practice
band, i. e. at least 3 years before the Saints Jazz Band, and about
the time of the Delta Rhythm Kings (the first recognised band of the
local Revival). But Derek's band also preceded the Smoky City
Stompers (c. 1946-1952), in which some of the personnel of the Delta
Rhythm Kings, had started spasmodically in approximately 1942-44.
However, the DRK wasn't the first recognised Jazz band in the
Manchester area either. That was reputed to be Max's (or Monty's
Creole Aces, or similar, who played in a dance hall or theatre in
Rusholme between 1919 and 1923, a band that aped the Hammersmith-Palais-based
Original Dixieland Jazz Band from the USA. However, let us not
forget that even earlier Jazz band - not allowed to use the term
"Jazz" either - "The Hot Spots" in 1936. This was a band playing
actual Jazz, but non-commercially, performed by under-14 year-olds
at Manchester Grammar School, under the eventual leadership of Frank
Dixon (multi-reedman extraordinaire, still playing today) and their
Maths. Master, Harry Lob, a non-Jazzer but a flautist in a classical
orchestra. He gave the boys unlimited support for their venture; in
"ULULA", the MGS magazine, the word Jazz was never mentioned in
connection with the band, which was never mentioned by name either
during the brief years of its existence. Instead, it would appear as
'Mr. Dixon's band'. This was a reference to Frank Dixon, see above.
Frank also ran the "Decibel" label, on which it is possible that
Derek's band recorded at the Johnny Roadhouse studios in All Saints.
Derek was a major, dare I say heroic, character of the Manchester
Jazz Revival of the 1940s. People will say that his band appeared at
the Spring Gardens Post Office Club between the 1950s and 1960s/70s.
However, by that time (1952ish through to the 1960s and possibly a
little longer), he was not actually in the band during those periods
even though the band played under his name. In his everyday life he
was a draughtsman, very much in demand at his place of work. He had
married Dinah and soon he would have more mouths to feed; so he left
his more philanthropic pursuit (Jazz) behind, although reluctantly
however realistically, but this move away from Jazz was only
temporary. The band simply retained his name, because he was so
well- known. National newspapers wrote about the Dixielanders in
glowing terms when Derek was still with the band. By about 1952,
Derek had left the Jazz scene and in his spare time, was exclusively
playing dance-music, at Cadman's Dance Hall, Stretford for a number
of years. At his funeral I was corrected by his widow, Dinah, with
regard to his having left Jazz altogether. Apparently, although this
is what I had been led to believe, it was not actually the case. Any
other comments about this period from people who knew or played with
Derek are, of course, welcome.
Nevertheless, in his Jazz column for the Manchester Evening News,
for September 1953, Alan Stevens (pen-name "Jack Florin") advised
the boys in Derek Atkins Dixielanders to change the name of the
band, as Derek had long since left it. It began to appear under the
name of the new trombonist, Reg. Payton. While Payton was still
playing with the band, Eddie Miller-styled saxophonist Wilf Harman
sat in one evening on tenor sax, at the Three Shires Restaurant, on
Spring Gardens, and was promptly hired, his involvement changing the
overall style significantly. Shortly afterwards, the band was
renamed 'Derek Atkins's Dixielanders', for publicity purposes. To
recapitulate on Derek's temporary abandonment of the Jazz scene,
Barrie Quilliam (piano), recalls a period which changes my original
perception of Derek's Jazz career. Barrie Quilliam, partly
reinforcing the information volunteered by Dinah Atkinson , Derek's
widow, at the funeral, recently sent the following to Fred Burnett
for the News Page:
"Derek Atkinson joined the Barrie Quilliam All Stars, the resident
band at The Railway Hotel in Wilmslow, in about 1956. He had been
playing with The Bluenotes at The Sportsman and it seemed that there
had been a musical disagreement with the leader Alan Hare. Our
trumpeter Jimmy Yarrow had replaced him with The Bluenotes, so in
effect we swapped trumpet players. The Barrie Quilliam All Stars
folded in about 1957, but Derek and I continued for about 2 years
with a trumpet. drums and piano trio, playing dance music at
weddings, parties and social clubs. This paid a lot better than
jazz. I lost contact with Derek when I formed The Dave Barrie
Quartet playing the latest pop and dance music. I returned to jazz
in the 1980s playing with the Geoff Wild band at the Malt Shovels in
Altrincham".
I recall Barrie's playing at the Malt Shovels, as during the 70s and
80s, I too played with Geoff Wilde and Barrie there. This statement
by Barrie, however, still leaves Derek only playing some form of
Jazz (however more lucratively) until some time in 1959, alongside
Barrie in his new trio (piano, trumpet, drums), and perhaps in so
doing straying away from the general Jazz scene.
Cornetist John Tucker, currently of the Temperance Seven, used to
know Derek quite well from brass band sessions. I was surprised to
learn from John that Derek actually returned to Jazz, and played
alongside that other celebrated cornetist, ex-Saints' Bob Connell.
The Jazz sessions took place at Heaton Moor Golf Club, Heaton Moor,
near Stockport, in probably the mid-70s. He also played at the
Dustman's Club, Withington, some twenty years ago. Therefore, he
didn't give up on us altogether.
Before and during their involvement at the Clarendon, and just after
the start of the Revival proper, the forerunners of Derek Atkins's
Dixielanders (the "Strutters Swingtet") had also played for some
time at the Edinburgh Hall on Princess Road, Moss Side, around
1946-48. For part of that time, the line-up, as the resident band,
had been: Derek Atkins's (cornet/leader); Mo' Mosedale (clarinet);
Fred Fydler (trombone); at first (1946), Alan Hare (piano), replaced
in approximately 1947 by Snowy Hansen and Ted Roberts (guitar).
There was no bassist (string or brass). In the 1949 recording of the
band on the "Delta" label, Ted's wife, Joan Roberts, came under
severe criticism from Max Jones of the "Melody Maker", although,
according to most accounts, Joan was a reasonably good vocalist. It
would be interesting to hear for ourselves how she really sounded. I
believe Jason might have access to this and other recordings. Derek
had an old-style 'radiogram' in which some of his beloved recordings
have remained to this day. I hope that that D. A. D. recording is
among them.
It only remains for me to say to Diane, Jason and all members of
Derek's family and their friends, on behalf of all on the Manchester
Jazz scene, that we are with them in their loss and thoughts, but
hope that the celebration of his highly varied life and career will
bring us all some degree of comfort and pride about a life
thoroughly well lived and worthwhile.
Joe Silmon-Monerri Manchester, UK, December 2012.
16/12/12 -
"Hi Fred, I
remember, when I was very young in about 1951/52, going to a small
jazz festival at St. Georges' Hall, Liverpool and seeing a band
called the "Derek Atkins Dixielanders". It was a pretty good band, I
seem to remember, though not in the popular " revivalist style ( not
Trad then, am glad to say !!! ) Of the time. It suited my friends
and me, as we had already become enticed by Eddie Condon' music.
Don't remember much else, but I do seem to remember reading that
Alan hare was in the band on trombone! ".
Roy Swift
16/12/12 -
Dear Fred, Derek was a trumpet
player and I played with him in my very early days when Alan Hare
had a band playing at The Kings Hall in Cheadle Hulme. I have a not
too good cassette tape recording of that band playing. The older
band members used to go to the pub at the interval and John Mayall
and myself used to do a duet".
Mart Rodger
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